"Fashion flogs an ever-receding fantasy that feasts on the lie that if everyone thinks they are ugly, they will spend more to send the ugliness away."

The quote, from this article, sums up everything I never understood about the world of high fashion. I could never comprehend it - why in hellfire do women spend thousands of dollars they often can't afford on a dress or purse or shoes that look no different (at least to me) than the stuff you can find at Payless or Nordstrom's Rack? Yes, I know some of you are cringing right now (*cough*[livejournal.com profile] ravinsky*cough*) but I genuinely can't tell the difference much of the time.

Now I understand it. These items are charms against ugliness. Our belief in their power to change us makes them magic. And because we believe they will transform us, they do.

On the one hand I'm glad I finally understand; on the other hand it makes me sad in a whole new way, and it adds fuel to my loathing of the "beauty" industry. They spend thousands of dollars telling us we're ugly so that we will give them thousands of dollars to make us beautiful. Their very existence relies on hoping that we never wake up and realize just how beautiful we really are.

I will not spend money to send my ugliness away. Partly because I do not have money to spend, partly because I believe ugliness is a necessary thing sometimes... but mostly because I have more power to banish ugliness in one pinkie finger than any thousand-dollar dress has ever had.

I write beautiful things. I draw beautiful things. I make beautiful things - clothing and jewelry and love. Who is going to tell me that my life is incomplete because I don't own a designer dress?


From: [identity profile] angelislington.livejournal.com

This article is even more infuriating as a) SHE IS GORGEOUS AND CLEARLY NOT FAT and b) don't forget she is a UK 16, which means US 12. Sometimes a 10. CLEARLY NOT FAT.

I would *kill* to be able to wear that luscious blue skirt in one of the photos. Le sigh.

But yes, designer things ARE charms against ugliness. Which is why every entitled Newport Beach bitch comes into my shop covered head to toe in pricey couture, hoping to ward off age and improve their appearance. BLEAUGH.

From: [identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com

That's just it though! Even if she WAS fat, she'd be gorgeous! She ISN'T fat, AND she's gorgeous, and she's still being told she's fat and ugly. WHAT THE HELL.

This is why I make my own clothes. They fit better, they're beautiful, and every damn one is a designer original. ;)

From: [identity profile] mlerules.livejournal.com

You make your own clothes?! Color me more impressed than usual w/you...

From: [identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com

*blushes* You are too kind, lady! Yeah, I make most of what I wear, it's the only way I can find things that fit properly. I'm too curvy for most of the plus-size market.

From: [identity profile] gothchickgamer.livejournal.com


Why do the women look desperate and sad?

This is making all my Women's Studies reading racing through my head. That is suck an unfair, biased article.

:: sigh ::

From: [identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com

Re: oi

The article's fine, it's the stores & industry she's writing about that are biased and unfair. *shakes head* What a load of tripe!

From: [identity profile] adsartha.livejournal.com

I don't say this often enough, but: you rock. And that whole last part is something I need to remind myself of, too.


From: [identity profile] faerievixen2.livejournal.com

Well, I think part of it is that a lot of clothes cut to fit smaller sizes just won't look as good on larger sizes.

Plus sized clothing is of a specific proportion and style and (in my experience, having gone from a size 8 to a size 16 over the past decade) cut with more curve in mind. It's not that designers don't want to design clothing for overweight women (and maybe some don't), it's that many of them simply don't know how to.

Even if I could find a designer dress in my size, there's no guarantee it would be flattering. A designer who specifically designs for the plus-sized figure is more likely to carry something that both fits *and* looks good on me.

From: [identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com

Very true. I wish some of the fashion moguls would design for (at least slightly) larger girls in mind. They'd make so many people happier and broaden their markets so dramatically... but then again perhaps part of the appeal is that the market IS so small. If you can buy it and wear it then you're properly elite...

From: [identity profile] faerievixen2.livejournal.com

I wonder how they do on an international level. That may be what sustains them.

As far as I'm concerned, if a designer feels like marketing their clothes in a larger size would make their clothing less attractive, that's their right. There are plenty of stores and markets that cater to my size.

From: [identity profile] jameswiswell.livejournal.com

your life is not complete for you are not making money being the clothing designer you should be!!

*hugs* GO FOR IT! it's in you! .... YOU CAN DOOOOO IT (all night long!)

From: [identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com

Actually, one of our guests at the cafe IS a professional fashion designer - she's starting a new line soon and has asked if I want to share any of my designs with her and see if we can make a few of them into reality... I am probably more excited than I should be.

From: [identity profile] ravinsky.livejournal.com

AHA I did cringe and then I realized why, because it is true. I do adore certain designer clothing, but pieces that are uniquely tailored to my style and are individual that I know will stand out that makes me feel special for owning and because its completely and utterly me. Couture clothing is tailored for thin girls, abnormally thin girls and marketed toward that crowd. I'm too big to purchase a pure chanel dress, but what the author failed to mention is that many designers have mid level lines, take Marc by Marc Jacobs for instance that caters to average women. I purchase clothes from that brand constantly because: I love the designer and admire his work, I think the clothes are unique and go with my style and the fit me in a flattering way.

More often than not brands that I used to wear when I was a size eight no longer flatter me since I'm now a size larger so guess what? I've stopped buying them. The market is no longer for me, but I still find gorgeous pieces by designers that I love that I feel is worth every cent, not only because of the style and fit but because of the quality used to produce the items. I bought a Christian Audigier t-shirt last summer that is out of this world, a gorgeous screen on print on the front, crystals placed like stars, etc, everytime I was it, it comes out the same, the print hasn't faded, I haven't lost a crystal. It was worth every penny.

It's all in the way you look at it I suppose. But honestly if it bothers some women so much that they can't purchase a dress from a designer merely to own a designer dress it says something about the woman. You could take that thousand dollars and probably find a beautiful amazing outstanding dress somewhere else for half the price and buy a Prada wallet or Manolo Blahnick shoes with the rest of it. I'd rather have a bag that lasts me for the rest of my life anyway, my Isabella Fiore bag is a testament to that.

From: [identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com

She may not have mentioned the large-size collections because they aren't carried in the Bond Street shops. It's also possible that those larger-size collections are only marketed in the US and not in Europe. Never having been there, can't say for sure.

The difference really does lie within us, not in the industry. I actually LOVE to read World Fashion Magazine and see all the beautiful (and bizarre!) outfits the designers come up with, and interviews with the designers talking about their work. Fashion is an art form. I love art. I can appreciate the things designers do with their medium, and I am fascinated by the things they're trying to say with it.

But MY reaction to seeing something I love in a fashion magazine isn't, "OMG I have to buy one!" It's, "OMG I could totally make something similar that would look even better on me!" Which I then proceed to do. It truly is all in the way we look at it - for some women, it's entirely about the status symbol of the designer's name; for you, it's about high-quality couture that makes you feel good; for me it's about inspiration and pushing my own art to new levels.

It's wonderful how different people are.

From: [identity profile] ravinsky.livejournal.com

Fashion is definitely an art form and man if I could sew who knows what I would make, probably not anything that great. I really don't have an eye for creating physical art if that makes sense? I wish I did though.

I definitely agree with you on it's all in who you are. I find people who buy designer labels merely because of it being a designer a little sad actually. Don't buy a Juicy sweatsuit because it's juicy and everyone knows because its plastered across your ass, buy it because it's a higher quality and has a better fit, and nobody needs to know that's what your wearing unless they know to look for the J on the pull string. I hate stuff with logos all over it and the designer names on the shirts and stuff, it's a turn off for me.

From: [identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com

See, that's why I never really got it. In Seattle (and especially in Bellevue, where I work) it is ALL ABOUT logos and displaying those designer names. I always found it pretty nauseating. I didn't know that for some people it's about quality and fit rather than OMGBRANDNAMES.

The only exception to that is Affliction T-shirts. They have some of the most gorgeous screen prints I've ever seen, and the idea of spending $50 on a T-shirt was horrifying to me until I got one for my birthday and discovered the difference in quality. It's so soft and so much sturdier. I don't mind that they all say "AFFLICTION" all over them because frankly that's kind of a cool brand name and because they're just so damn goth-y and pretty.

From: [identity profile] ravinsky.livejournal.com

Ah see in NY it's so much different, well the city anyway it's like someone should only know what you're wearing if they can afford it as well basically and in NY it's all about being fashionable as well as personal style.

I feel that way about Christian Audigier! I don't care that his name is on it since it's so fucking beautiful and gorgeous and it's basically his look, his brand but it is so perfect for me too, does that make sense?

Usually nobody believes me when I say the quality is better but more often than not it is YAY you agree.


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